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Elite Pool campeign kickoff contest by Phoenix1969

Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:06 am

TIME EXPIRED



BOUNTY:
I offer 100 lisk this week beginning RIGHT now for the 3 best reasons Why you feel Lisk Elite voting pool is good for the Lisk community. 50, 30, and 20 lisk repectively to the top 3 winning reasons to be picked and PAID directly by me next Friday following a short voting period.
Submit your entries below with a lisk address. Limit 5 entries (reasons)per user.
Phoenix1969

ENTRIES CLOSED, VOTING CLOSED

Please choose by number any 3 of the following:

1 Elites is there from the beginning and because the founders of Lisk are still fine, it seems Elites is securing the network fine.

2 The experience in the DPOS ecosystem with Lisk + most active members are easy to contact in the lisk chat.

3 Elites members support projects from active members in the community and this helps out to improve the ecosystem.

4 Good payout for small wallet (<2000 lsk) with no vote change require : Frequent vote update could be very expensive in fee and could eat rewards of small wallet.

5 Guarantee weekly payout for small wallet (<2000 lsk) : While a small wallet may wait month before getting any reward from standalone delegate or smaller pool. If that delegate is kicked out of 101 list, the small wallet may never receive payout

6 Vote management is easy : voters don't need to compare payout and policy of dozen delegates, policy is the same for all elite member, it’s easy and fill 56 vote slots in a couple of minutes.

Phoenix. you have 2-3 hours
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Re: Elite Pool campeign kickoff contest by Phoenix1969

Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:28 pm

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Reason 1 : Elites is there from the beginning and because the founders of Lisk are still fine, it seems Elites is securing the network fine.
Reason 2 : The experience in the DPOS ecosystem with Lisk + most active members are easy to contact in the lisk chat.
Reason 3 : Elites members support projects from active members in the community and this helps out to improve the ecosystem.

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Re: Elite Pool campeign kickoff contest by Phoenix1969

Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:04 pm

Elite is good for small wallet :

- Good payout for small wallet (<2000 lsk) with no vote change require : Frequent vote update could be very expensive in fee and could eat rewards of small wallet.

- Guarantee weekly payout for small wallet (<2000 lsk) : While a small wallet may wait month before getting any reward from standalone delegate or smaller pool. If that delegate is kicked out of 101 list, the small wallet may never receive payout

- Vote management is easy : voters don't need to compare payout and policy of dozen delegates, policy is the same for all elite member, it’s easy and fill 56 vote slots in a couple of minutes.

How to improve elite :

If I want to be honest, I have to also highlight elite weakness :

- Sharing % : 25% payout is to low regarding lisk current price, Elite should increase it. 50% would be very nice.
- Self reward system : Elite members should be excluded from elite payout.
- Better Transparency.
- Improved communication.

All these things could make elite great again ;-)
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Re: Elite Pool campeign kickoff contest by Phoenix1969

Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:16 pm

I can agree 100% here. Thanks liskpro :)

- Sharing % : 25% payout is to low regarding lisk current price, Elite should increase it. 50% would be very nice.
- Self reward system : Elite members should be excluded from elite payout.
- Better Transparency.
- Improved communication.

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Re: Elite Pool campeign kickoff contest by Phoenix1969

Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:38 pm

Positive:
- easy for new voters
- guaranteed regular payout

Negative/to be improved:
- 25% payout is very low, every delegate keeps about 3000x more Lisk than the average voter, unimaginable in real life politics, elite members vote for themselves so the actual payout is even less than 25%
- too much members that all have to be voted for, which is negative for aspiring delegates + centralization => less members or not requiring all to be voted for
- low transparency (donations? who are the members?)
- poor communication (unable to handle criticism, most members never in chat,...)

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Re: Elite Pool campeign kickoff contest by Phoenix1969

Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:35 pm

scheven_architect wrote:Positive:
- easy for new voters
- guaranteed regular payout

Negative/to be improved:
- 25% payout is very low, every delegate keeps about 3000x more Lisk than the average voter, unimaginable in real life politics, elite members vote for themselves so the actual payout is even less than 25%
- too much members that all have to be voted for, which is negative for aspiring delegates + centralization => less members or not requiring all to be voted for
- low transparency (donations? who are the members?)
- poor communication (unable to handle criticism, most members never in chat,...)


As posted in BCT and lisk.chat, entries are closed, and we are voting. Theres a couple hours left.
I do not understand which 3 you are voting for.

Please choose by number any 3 of the following:

1 Elites is there from the beginning and because the founders of Lisk are still fine, it seems Elites is securing the network fine.

2 The experience in the DPOS ecosystem with Lisk + most active members are easy to contact in the lisk chat.

3 Elites members support projects from active members in the community and this helps out to improve the ecosystem.

4 Good payout for small wallet (<2000 lsk) with no vote change require : Frequent vote update could be very expensive in fee and could eat rewards of small wallet.

5 Guarantee weekly payout for small wallet (<2000 lsk) : While a small wallet may wait month before getting any reward from standalone delegate or smaller pool. If that delegate is kicked out of 101 list, the small wallet may never receive payout

6 Vote management is easy : voters don't need to compare payout and policy of dozen delegates, policy is the same for all elite member, it’s easy and fill 56 vote slots in a couple of minutes.

Phoenix. you have 2-3 hours

Example:
I vote for 3, 5, and 6. No matter the order.
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Re: Elite Pool campeign kickoff contest by Phoenix1969

Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:00 pm

Reasons why the Lisk Elite voting pool is good for the Lisk community :

1. Elite has made voting worthwhile for even small accounts by creating the first universal reward pool that pays in lump sum. This helped pull millions off LSK of exchanges and participating in the voting.
2. They continue to minimize the impact that ARK founding delegates can have over our chain and who would syphon value out of our ecosystem for their competing product.
3. They are long term Lisk believers who have proven they will hold long making them excellent participants of a DPoS system.
4. They have already donated to many efforts. https://liskelite.com/donation.
5. They must hold a certain amount to maintain membership of the group therefore keeping a lot off LSK of the market allowing projects to redeem LSK for funding at reasonable rates.

Address : 6377261742818960818L

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Re: Elite Pool campeign kickoff contest by Phoenix1969

Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:14 pm

E1337 wrote:Reasons why the Lisk Elite voting pool is good for the Lisk community :

1. Elite has made voting worthwhile for even small accounts by creating the first universal reward pool that pays in lump sum. This helped pull millions off LSK of exchanges and participating in the voting.
2. They continue to minimize the impact that ARK founding delegates can have over our chain and who would syphon value out of our ecosystem for their competing product.
3. They are long term Lisk believers who have proven they will hold long making them excellent participants of a DPoS system.
4. They have already donated to many efforts. https://liskelite.com/donation.
5. They must hold a certain amount to maintain membership of the group therefore keeping a lot off LSK of the market allowing projects to redeem LSK for funding at reasonable rates.

Address : 6377261742818960818L



Those are great reasons. Why did you wait until the voting began to enter? I can't legitmately include these. sry.
If peeps vote for these or others just put in comments and ill make an "unofficial" winner as well if its popular


PLEASE VOTE GUYS... AGAIN, ENTRY PERIOD IS OVER.
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Re: Elite Pool campeign kickoff contest by Phoenix1969

Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:54 pm

1. Elite screws you voters with ridiculous 25% payout = 75% for them
2. Forced voting - vote for all 56 members or get absolutely nothing
3. Imagine how much more you can earn if you vote for 56 free delegates instead of these 56 Elite niggards

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Re: Elite Pool campeign kickoff contest by Phoenix1969

Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:23 pm

I've decided since there were only a few of you that everyone shouldbe included and just spit the pot for participation.
so all 4 of you get 25 lisk each. Thank-you for participating.

https://explorer.lisknode.io/tx/2855580068216463638
https://explorer.lisknode.io/tx/12031036036552872751
https://explorer.lisknode.io/tx/11915565407549156652
https://explorer.lisknode.io/tx/3504937135779144835


:D
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